Posts by Bob

  • Ancestral Ruins combo making

    So you're asking me to go through additional effort to both overcome the language barrier and to record, edit and upload a youtube video so you have everything on a silver platter without putting in any effort? Sure, I'll do that and include the tools i made for myself for 1500 Euro paid upfront (equivalent of 1 euro per hour I've spent on understanding this feature in as much depth as i can) and you'll be able to do exactly what i do.


    Or you could read what people literally told you already and that would be free. What you're asking was literally done already and i linked it to you again 2 messages before, but i guess you didn't bother to read it even after that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    Not going through the minimum effort of reading the answers that were already given to me looks like a sign of disrespect to the people trying to help you out. Not trying to do the exercise for yourself or at least asking specific questions about it when you get really stuck looks to me like a sign of laziness.


    Unless I start seeing some effort from your part by seeing you attempt to write the events that would happen round by round (or unless you pay me) I have no reason to help you.

  • Ancestral Ruins combo making

    What I'm telling you is that there is no point in using artificial intelligence to try to figure out a formation if you don't even understand how battles are carried out... You may have better results with a random number generator than AI.


    You have to put work in understanding how the battles work and for that you have the linked resources. Once you understand how battles work, you can take a formation and figure out if it wins or loses and by how much then you try it out and if the result is not what you got, you try to see where you calculated incorrectly and if you don't understand where you went wrong, those would be the sort of questions i would expect. Show your work and people can point out the mistakes in your thought process.


    You're too focused on getting the formation, but that you can only do after you understand battles. To understand battles you have to write things down and do the math which i have not seen you attempt so far or you didn't ask any questions about that, but here's an opportunity:


    Show me how you would calculate the result of the following battle:

    46,31,25,9

    vs

    skeleton:19

    zombie:28

    undead cultist:30

    bonewing:15

    bloated corpse:15

    wraith:2

  • Ancestral Ruins combo making

    With the language thing i was specifically talking to AHMEDHAGRAS.


    Try human intelligence and the good old fashion math with pen and paper. Take things step by step. Have you ever tried writing what would happen in each round?


    krneki showed you an example Update feedback. Have you looked through it and tried to understand what was happening and why ? Have you tried to replicate it ? You didn't post any questions about that so to me either you understood it completely or didn't bother with it at all.


    I could go more into an AI rant, but I'll limit myself to: AI can be good if you know what you're doing and horrible if you treat everything it says as gospel.

  • Ancestral Ruins combo making

    The explanations are literally in the links I shared. People who try to understand them usually do or come back with specific questions (e.g. why does X do Y damage instead of Z? or will this formation result in these losses ). People who don't even bother to go through the minimum effort come back with questions about how to get the formation for the next layer without even trying to calculate it themselves.


    It's not a military secret, but it does require effort to learn and I can't learn in other people's stead.



    For you specifically i understand there is a language barrier and you don't have the FAQ and Q&A in your language, but there's nothing i can do about that. I tried to show you how 3 fights work, but if translating those FAQ and Q&A pages with google translate or an LLM can't help, nothing that I say will likely help either so you should probably seek someone who speaks your language and has a good English and ask them to explain things to you.

  • Ancestral Ruins combo making

    Quote from yvzsltn61

    I can't get past tier 33. It hasn't happened for 4 days. Last 61-41-15-5 i tried, but they all died again.


    Isn't there a mathematics to this? I'm really bored. The whole army I gathered for 1 day dies. On top of that, I can't pass the round. The next day, the same thing happened again.

    As i was telling you in a different reply, yes there is a way to calculate all of this. This whole feature is JUST mathematics. The hard part is figuring out the formulas the devs used and for that you need spend time reading, experimenting and understanding how the fights work. All the lists that you see online will not work if they are not used against the correct enemies (and since most of the times people don't list the enemies they went up against, you don't even know what to look for).


    I don't claim to fully understand it either, but after spending a significant amount of time on trying to understand it and thousands of runs i've managed to predict the outcome (with low losses) for ~ 80-90% of the fights, win, but with different amount of losses ~10-20% and i only lost ~ 10 runs total (including the ones i helped my friends with) since I passed layer 40 which was ~1 month and thousands of runs ago.


    Imo you would have much more to gain by spending time trying to understand the system instead of looking for lists or trying to find unicorn formations that would win against any enemy formation for certain layers. Lists might be ok-ish for lower levels, but the higher you go, the more enemy formations vary and it becomes more likely that with a list you overkill certain enemies while not dealing enough damage to kill other enemies or you don't have enough units to tank the damage from certain enemies which will likely result in defeat.



    As i did in my other post, here are the links to useful resources to get you started:

    Path to Ancestry: Details & FAQ

    Path to Ancestry - Q&A

  • Ancestral Ruins combo making

    I don't believe universal formations that work for every enemy formation exist. Each time you get new enemies. What worked once even with low losses might fail spectacularly vs other enemies. That's why i'm not a fan of lists and think each enemy formation needs to be looked at separately since the chances are that the exact enemy formation you currently have to be even close to what the person who made the "list" had when they made the list is fairly low.

  • Ancestral Ruins combo making

    Also, in general, if you put any more than 1 t5 before you have any t7 (and even then) is wasted units since bonewing kills them before they can do anything


    This whole feature is just math. The hard part is figuring out how the devs implemented it and i have not fully done that, but i got it to be fairly accurate with exact predictions in 1000+ runs

  • Ancestral Ruins combo making

    Quote from AHMEDHAGRAS

    I couldn't get past layer 49


    Does anyone know a formation to bypass the layer?

    I don't remember if you have T6 unlocked or just T5.
    If you have T6:
    T1:55, T2:16, T3:44, T4:10, T5:1, T6:4.

    total army str should be 474/490
    Predicted losses (12, 16, 0, 10, 1, 0) total cost of lost units 760

    If you have just T5:
    38, 35, 55, 10, 1

    total army str should be 469/490
    Predicted losses (12, 28, 0, 10, 1) total cost of lost units 940